Concerned...

MrD · 22-05-2009, 12:27 PM

Seeking advice as always!!

I was bathing Herman and Patch today and giving them a check over as usual. I have noticed over the last few weeks that Patch has a sort of reddish colour around her anus?! The only reason I am concered is because obviosuly she has grey/brown skin everywhere else!

A few other observations I have made these last few weeks:

Patch pee'd in the bath the other day and it was slightly discoloured - a sort of browny red colour. Usually it's clear with the white urates. This appeared to be a one off, so I just thought 'keep an eye'.

Today I was bathing them yet again and Patch had done a pee (no white urates) and a couple of poo's. Then, she seemed to be doing another poo, but nothing came out. I picked her up and looked underneath and there was a white mass poking out of her anus. I put her back in the water and it cam out followed by another little white mass.

I picked these out of the bath and they were brittle, kind of like limestone flour mixed with water. These small white masses were quite small, but I am doing the whole 'worrying' thing now!!

Any ideas or has anyone ever had something like this before... Obviously I immediately thought bladder stones?!

Any thought please post.

Zen · 22-05-2009, 12:38 PM

Hiya, sometimes when torts eat lots of dandies it can turn their urine a reddish/brown colour, so it may have been that. The white mass you describe sound like urates to me, Occaisionally i have seen them with Zen, keep up with the baths and they should pass. Someone will correct me i'm sure but i think too many dandies can make the urates hard??? (High in Oxylates???, but ok as part of a varied diet) Hopefully someone with more experience will be along shortly!

MrD · 22-05-2009, 12:43 PM

Thanks Zen. Patch does like her Dandies as well!! I'll up the baths to more than 3 times a week and see if they pass. Usually her urates are more like toothpaste.

linda · 22-05-2009, 01:43 PM

the white mass is still urates

but it is indicating your tort is a littel dehydrated

up the baths offer some high water content foods

cut back on the dandies

everything should get back to normal in a few weeks

22-05-2009, 12:27 PM	#1
MrD Member Hatched Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 415	Concerned... Seeking advice as always!! I was bathing Herman and Patch today and giving them a check over as usual. I have noticed over the last few weeks that Patch has a sort of reddish colour around her anus?! The only reason I am concered is because obviosuly she has grey/brown skin everywhere else! A few other observations I have made these last few weeks: Patch pee'd in the bath the other day and it was slightly discoloured - a sort of browny red colour. Usually it's clear with the white urates. This appeared to be a one off, so I just thought 'keep an eye'. Today I was bathing them yet again and Patch had done a pee (no white urates) and a couple of poo's. Then, she seemed to be doing another poo, but nothing came out. I picked her up and looked underneath and there was a white mass poking out of her anus. I put her back in the water and it cam out followed by another little white mass. I picked these out of the bath and they were brittle, kind of like limestone flour mixed with water. These small white masses were quite small, but I am doing the whole 'worrying' thing now!! Any ideas or has anyone ever had something like this before... Obviously I immediately thought bladder stones?! Any thought please post.

22-05-2009, 12:38 PM	#2
Zen Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Banbury Oxfordshire Posts: 2,623	Hiya, sometimes when torts eat lots of dandies it can turn their urine a reddish/brown colour, so it may have been that. The white mass you describe sound like urates to me, Occaisionally i have seen them with Zen, keep up with the baths and they should pass. Someone will correct me i'm sure but i think too many dandies can make the urates hard??? (High in Oxylates???, but ok as part of a varied diet) Hopefully someone with more experience will be along shortly! __________________ Rachael & Zen (THB) 'Show gratitude to every living thing' Last edited by Zen; 22-05-2009 at 12:43 PM.

22-05-2009, 12:43 PM	#3
MrD Member Hatched Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 415	Thanks Zen. Patch does like her Dandies as well!! I'll up the baths to more than 3 times a week and see if they pass. Usually her urates are more like toothpaste.

22-05-2009, 01:43 PM	#4
linda Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: west midlands Posts: 17,134	the white mass is still urates but it is indicating your tort is a littel dehydrated up the baths offer some high water content foods cut back on the dandies everything should get back to normal in a few weeks

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