Odd behavior... Submission?

RacingSnake · 25-06-2013, 07:12 PM

We've had a lovely day down here today and our 2 have been out stomping their new half-built enclosure.
Anyway, they retired back to their house and I thought nothing of it.

I looked over Fiorano was sat in the door way, looking up and around, and the Valentino was by his side with his head down.
I thought V was in the throws of biting F, so ignored them.
But probably 10 mins later I looked again and they were both in exactly the same position. and I mean exactly.

I sat and just stared at them for about 5 mins waiting to see if V was indeed trying to bite, but nope, just sat there with his head down pointing at F's leg.

they have been scrapping/humping a lot lately, so is this the outcome? do we have a winner and a sign of submission?

Or is it nothing

**egyptiandan64** · 25-06-2013, 07:52 PM

Looks like 2 tortoises not humping each other to me

Danny

RacingSnake · 25-06-2013, 07:58 PM

lol
but for Valentino to be sat like that with his neck outstretched staring for at least 20 mins? Doesn't look comfortable!

I guess, the question I should have asked, is do tortoises establish a hierarchy as seen in other animals?

Catwoman63 · 25-06-2013, 10:24 PM

I think he was staring at the other one waiting for him to move so he could bite him, my girls have stared at each other like that motionless waiting for the other to move lol....could be that x

sandy · 26-06-2013, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RacingSnake

lol
but for Valentino to be sat like that with his neck outstretched staring for at least 20 mins? Doesn't look comfortable!

I guess, the question I should have asked, is do tortoises establish a hierarchy as seen in other animals?

Certainly with males their is an alpha male, this is why they fight if females are around. Less likely if they have grown up with each other, as they seem to "know" who is alpha male then. But when you introduce a new male, there will be fighting. More if there is a female around.

yuna1971 · 26-06-2013, 07:42 AM

RS...off subject a bit but what beautiful looking torts. Their shells are outstanding!

Did you ever buy the shed from Northumberland Joinery as would love to see it up and in the enclosure? xx

Catwoman63 · 26-06-2013, 08:52 AM

Yes he did Rach have a look in the housing thread, he's done a step by step modification of the old enclosure and there are some great pictures of the new tortoise house from Northumberland joinery x

burnt toast · 26-06-2013, 10:46 AM

Looks like he's just relaxing to me, mine stay like that for longish periods of time especially on a hot day mid to late afternoon. I dont think it means they have established who's boss. I think its wose at certain times of year. I have some young males just reaching maturity & they are more active mid/late morning but collapse late afternoon, just like my females

Mighty_Quinn · 01-07-2013, 04:49 PM

This is how my little tort relaxes sometimes sleeping our just stretched out eyes open doing nothing.

Gorgeous torts !!

25-06-2013, 07:12 PM	#1
RacingSnake Member Hatchling Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Reading Posts: 582	Odd behavior... Submission? We've had a lovely day down here today and our 2 have been out stomping their new half-built enclosure. Anyway, they retired back to their house and I thought nothing of it. I looked over Fiorano was sat in the door way, looking up and around, and the Valentino was by his side with his head down. I thought V was in the throws of biting F, so ignored them. But probably 10 mins later I looked again and they were both in exactly the same position. and I mean exactly. I sat and just stared at them for about 5 mins waiting to see if V was indeed trying to bite, but nope, just sat there with his head down pointing at F's leg. they have been scrapping/humping a lot lately, so is this the outcome? do we have a winner and a sign of submission? Or is it nothing __________________ Code: .~~~. _ .~~~. _ ./____/'_) ./____/'_) {_}-{_} {_}-{_}

25-06-2013, 07:52 PM	#2
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	Looks like 2 tortoises not humping each other to me Danny __________________

25-06-2013, 07:58 PM	#3
RacingSnake Member Hatchling Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Reading Posts: 582	lol but for Valentino to be sat like that with his neck outstretched staring for at least 20 mins? Doesn't look comfortable! I guess, the question I should have asked, is do tortoises establish a hierarchy as seen in other animals? __________________ Code: .~~~. _ .~~~. _ ./____/'_) ./____/'_) {_}-{_} {_}-{_}

25-06-2013, 10:24 PM	#4
Catwoman63 Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: South East England Posts: 6,739	I think he was staring at the other one waiting for him to move so he could bite him, my girls have stared at each other like that motionless waiting for the other to move lol....could be that x __________________ BEV XXX 0.3.0 - T Horsfieldii (Xena, Zelda & Lilly) 2.2.0 - TG Terrestris (Zeus, Astreus / Zagreus & Alexia) 1.2.0 - Zebra Finches (Gunner / Bonnie & May) 0.1.0 - SBT (Hazel) 1.0.0 - FBD (Ted)

26-06-2013, 07:42 AM	#6
yuna1971 Senior Member Adult Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bristol Posts: 7,157	RS...off subject a bit but what beautiful looking torts. Their shells are outstanding! Did you ever buy the shed from Northumberland Joinery as would love to see it up and in the enclosure? xx __________________ Rach Lily's Movie. http://www.shelledwarriors.co.uk/for...ad.php?t=68025

26-06-2013, 08:52 AM	#7
Catwoman63 Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: South East England Posts: 6,739	Yes he did Rach have a look in the housing thread, he's done a step by step modification of the old enclosure and there are some great pictures of the new tortoise house from Northumberland joinery x __________________ BEV XXX 0.3.0 - T Horsfieldii (Xena, Zelda & Lilly) 2.2.0 - TG Terrestris (Zeus, Astreus / Zagreus & Alexia) 1.2.0 - Zebra Finches (Gunner / Bonnie & May) 0.1.0 - SBT (Hazel) 1.0.0 - FBD (Ted)

26-06-2013, 10:46 AM	#8
burnt toast Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,246	Looks like he's just relaxing to me, mine stay like that for longish periods of time especially on a hot day mid to late afternoon. I dont think it means they have established who's boss. I think its wose at certain times of year. I have some young males just reaching maturity & they are more active mid/late morning but collapse late afternoon, just like my females

01-07-2013, 04:49 PM	#9
Mighty_Quinn Member Hatchling Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: East Scotland Posts: 500	This is how my little tort relaxes sometimes sleeping our just stretched out eyes open doing nothing. Gorgeous torts !! __________________

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