[CherryBrandy]

Ibera's are pretty tough also. If you saw the heat emitted from a wall or stone etc its pretty immense. Sometimes if feels like a 5 bar fire coming from bricks when it heats up. A cloche will raise it by a few degrees too. If you are going for some heat then a ceramic is best in my opinion as it is tougher as opposed to a bulb in the open. those 100w ceramics give out huge amounts of heat. Some people use normal spot lights which do throw out some heat but not like a heat emitter. The sun luminosity and solar output is far greater on grey days than a bulb anyway. I love the ''Gordon are you sure' ? I think I will get it printed on a tshirt ! good luck and photos please as I am sure it will be fabulous area heat emitter or not ! CB